Friday, May 18, 2007

Jewish-Christian dialogue on a forum on the Middle East

"As a Christian..." ?
Clarifying who and what I am to avoid accusations of pretending to be Jewish (a member of Judaism).
Once again you are practicing "REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY"..
One again you are wrong, as I know and believe and teach that God is working first and foremost with Israel and Judah and always will, just like the ethnocentric Bible reveals. The nation and people of Israel (all Twelve Tribes of Israel) are God's Firstborn of many nations.
It could be said that those Indian, Russian or African CONVERTS to Judaism, pretending to be of this or that ethnic Israelite tribe, amounts to "replacement theology."
What poverty-stricken Gentile wouldn't opt to become a "Jew" or claim to be a descendant of Menashe ben Yosef (Manasseh son of Joseph) to achieve instant prosperity with a move to Western Israel? Shame on the rabbis who turn a blind eye to the LEGITIMATE sons and daughters of JOSEPH - the Anglo-Saxons - who ALONE have the identifying biblical birthmarks of fulfilled prophecy! The others claiming to be Jews or Israelites are converts to Judaism at best, and rarely legitimate descendants of ethnic Israel and Judah.
When members of other faiths constantly use their position as outsiders to determine the validity or faithfulness of another faith, they are ATTACKING it, in one way or another. It is difficult enough when members of the same faith differ in the interpretation of their own common faith.
Often outsiders can see things more clearly, not being subject to the group think, and if and whenever I disagree with aspects of Judaism (like the pagan myth of "hell"), it is based upon the Bible and is attacking error, CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.
When I accurately quote your own rabbis and get angry responses, are those Jews attacking this non-Jew or attacking those rabbis whose words I share (when I'm convinced they're correct on whatever subject is being discussed)? Even the Prophets, as Judaism teaches, reveal God would use non-Jews to take Jews to task over the Temple Mount, etc. Why do you oppose the Prophets and resist the Word and Will of God?
Should I determine that all Christians are not following the edicts of the Ten Commandments, which they hold so dear
That is your prerogative. As long as it's constructive criticism, I don't have any problem with it. Yet you don't feel any kinship with Christians, so your motivation would be questionable. However, my constructive criticism of both Christianity and Judaism is due to the fact that I recognize we are Israel and Judah and both must get back to biblical basics and return to our Great Creator God, the God of the Bible, the God of Israel and return to the Promised Land of Israel (held in trust by Judah now, while representatives of the other tribes should be encouraged to settle in Eretz Yisrael).
when they constantly use the Name of G*d callously,
How do you determine that? By what standard have you come to such a conclusion? Do you know all men's hearts?
treat Sunday as The Sabbath,
The Sabbath-keeping Church of God has never accepted Sunday as the Sabbath and denounce it as unscriptural, pagan and evidence of the evil influence of the Babylonian Mystery religion dressed in Christian drag - the Roman Catholic Cult.
The true Church of God continues to keep the same biblical Sabbath, biblical festivals and biblical dietary laws that Yeshua, the apostles and the early Church of God (both converted Jews, Israelites and Gentiles) faithfully observed against growing demonic opposition (now known as the RCC - the Babylonian Mystery religion grown great).
revere "Joshua ben Joseph of Nazereth" as the Moshiach, Literal "Son of G*d",
Yes, we love Yeshua, the Son of Man, resurrected as the Son of God, as the Mashiach. The Lubavitchers revere Menachem Schneerson as the Moshiach and await his resurrection. Let us agree to disagree and let time tell all.
raise creches of Human symbols within their Churches in Pagan adoration,
The Sabbath-keeping Church of God rejects and hates such idolatry (icons, statues, crosses, crucifixes) as abominations and abhors the false image of Christianity it shamefully presents.
What could Christianity be called.., "Hellenized Judaism" ? Paganized Hebrewism ?
Traditional Christianity, which is not biblical Christianity but baptized paganism, could be called the religion of Gentilized Israelites, that I continually expose as a counterfeit, a fraud, pimped by Roman wolves in sheep's clothing.
For you to be placing yourself in the position of commenting upon Judaism or its responsibilities, you MUST first be Jewish to see it from the inside. As an "outsider", you see everything first as a "Pagan" and how it relates to your "Paganism".
I've explained this above, as I can clearly see what your rabbis have said, and how their plain truth makes uncomfortable Jews even more uncomfortable when their hypocrisy is noted by an objective Christian. Some are so close to the trees they can't see the forest, as the saying goes.
I am not a pagan, as I am not a part of traditional Churchianity, although to some Jews all Christianity is idolatry, others feel differently. Some Jews know that different Jewish practices amount to superstition and idolatry (Babylonian influence), and others feel differently.
Believe in one G*d, or two, or three - even if they are all related as "really" only one central "G*d" ! It is essentially the same as Hindus relate to their three million g*ds, they also say they are all just "one" ! It is still all Pagan and idolatry...
Elohim [Hebrew word for God] is plural. The Sabbath-keeping Church of God rejects the pagan trinity, as we know that God is a Kingdom-Family (presently composed of two separate God-Beings) that we may be born again into at the First Resurrection where we're transformed from mortal to immortal, changed from flesh and blood to spirit, energized from human to divine. The pagans have various counterfeits of this truth, while Jews try to explain it away and have their traditional views veil its brilliance.
When reflecting on the Hebraic "Ten Statements of G*d", there are 613 other "commandments" that have equal sanctity - all "given" only to the Jews or Hebrews.
All the more compelling reason Jews are to live in the Promised Land of Israel where most of those commandments can only be kept.
What Gentiles follow them?
The Sabbath, dietary laws and biblical festivals are to be shared with all nations, as they reflect God's plan of salvation for ALL nations. The Prophets reveal King Messiah will encourage, instruct and command and enforce these laws upon ALL nations when He reigns from Jerusalem. The Sabbath-keeping Church of God, composed of converted Jews, Israelites and Gentiles, are pioneers of such a Wonderful World Tomorrow, the seventh millennial Sabbath about to dawn.
Particularly since "Jesu'" - himself- says he has canceled this previous "Covenant of G*d" with the Hebrews and replaced it with a "New Covenant" ?
Yeshua said no such thing! Traditional Christianity has horribly misrepresented Yeshua with their traditional errors, religious lies and idolatrous ideas that go against the Bible and "New Testament."
Yeshua and the apostles upheld the Law of God. They were not rebellious sinners teaching against it and cursing themselves (1 John 2:4).
Matthew 5:17-19
17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill [magnify, revealing spirit and not just letter of the law, making it even more binding]. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; [traditional Christianity is as guilty as sin!] but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
The apostles upheld God's dietary and moral laws:
Acts 15:29
29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

The New Covenant - yet to be established at the Return of the King, the coming of Christ from Heaven, will be made with Israel and Judah and includes writing the LAW, the TORAH, upon the tablets of their hearts and minds - not idolatrous traditions.

Hebrews 8:7-10

7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them [not with the law], He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the LORD. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
If you want to talk against Christianity, at least know what you're talking about and don't carelessly assume TRADITIONAL Christianity reflects biblical Christianity any more than Marx, Freud, the Kairites or globalist Jews like Wolfowitz represent Judaism.
At least those Jews in their right mind can agree with me on the Temple Mount, Greater Israel, treating sworn enemies like sworn enemies (not pretending they're peace partners), among many other issue, and thankfully an increasing number now also recognize Joseph (the Anglo-Saxons), as the Jewish organization Brit Am Israel (with its rabbinic quotes and Jewish sources) prove.
Shabbat Shalom!

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